Curse

prism2525 · Aug 14, 2007, 02:41 PM // 14:41

To all those who say that you should be allowed to quit if someone in your team leaves BEFORE, you don't know how to have fun.

A friend of mine was doing GvG one day and was left alone against 5. You know what? He trahsed THEM.

Keithark · Aug 14, 2007, 02:43 PM // 14:43

So..you fail at guessing as well

C2K · Aug 14, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by Keithark

So..you fail at guessing as well

Well, then I can't see why your feathers are in a ruffle, if you play a good build, 55s and runners are beatable. Sure it might take some time and/or tactics, but they are certainly beatable.

bilateralrope · Aug 14, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by pigdestroyer

retarded

so they are going to force you to play when you dont want to

You clicked enter mission, therefore you wanted to play in that arena knowing you have the possibility of running into problematic players.

Though I'd make it that if either of these conditions are met, then you can leave without penalty:
- Someone else on your team has already left.
- The match has been running for 10 minutes, so you can leave if you think its not going to actually finish.

Martin Firestorm · Aug 14, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

This is great news for Aspenwood!

I don't see aspenwood mentioned at all. Anet, you came up with such a good alternative game type with aspenwood (maybe jade quarry too, but I wouldn't know since no one's ever there). Please do something to slam the leechers who are all but killing it.

Patrick Smit · Aug 14, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by bilateralrope

You clicked enter mission, therefore you wanted to play in that arena knowing you have the possibility of running into problematic players.

Though I'd make it that if either of these conditions are met, then you can leave without penalty:
- Someone else on your team has already left.
- The match has been running for 10 minutes, so you can leave if you think its not going to actually finish.

10 minutes? Are u mad? fights should be explosive and last a max of 3-5 minutes.
Other reasons to leave:
-u are not being ressed
-runners
-grievers
-leechers
-no arrivals
-not the first leaver
-lost fight, all signets used, last man standing
-many more i didnt think of in a 30 secs
-ow and IDIOTS

=HT=Ingram · Aug 14, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01

I must say I have great pleasure at reading this... It may mean a return to playability of Random Arenas and Fort Aspenwood for the FUN of it again...
Both were throughly enjoyable in the beginning when this kind of problem was not very prevalent. But as it got worse more and more the behavior of Rage leaving or just plain leaving or idling just made those aspects of the game unenjoyable to participate in at all. Hopefully this will sufficiently penalize these rage quitters to a point that it takes SO long for them to be allowed to come back into the queue for doing it that they will either go away or play as they are suppose too. And the new Idle system for Aspenwood sounds great... With the title grind it has gotten to be more and more a problem. So it all sounds good to me...

Zorgy · Aug 14, 2007, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Congrats Anet

Some mentioned that Anet is slow, but they do it....better late than never.

Never forget that GW is a 2 years old baby, let him grow up quietly....and GW will become a giant overtaking WoW & the others.

Who want to bet 250 armbraces of truth with me ?

Dodgers777 · Aug 15, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

This is great news for Aspenwood!

Really hope they implement it for FA also. I still don't understand why people or bots would leech there to get 66 factions. It would also punish those leavers also.

Andrew Patrick · Aug 15, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by darkknightkain

In addition to RA, please include this for the Factions areas too!!

I believe this would also be in place in the Factions area. I'm not 100% sure (since this is all still in development) but I am pretty sure it would solve the issue in the Arenas, as well as AB and Aspenwood/Quarry.

Edit: And yes, time limit in arenas as well to prevent endless running or tanking.

Softly Spoken Lies · Aug 15, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36

So Basically, what I get from this is:
A. I am FORCED to play certain parts of the game. Dammit all to hell if I don't want to stay in a group with an idiot.
B. If my roommate is dying on the floor, damn him, I can't leave this RA match because my account might be penalized.

Why don't we complain about something else? Like, for instance...New guild cape emblems, more templates for hair\face. And wouldn't it be great if we had a day where you could change the way your char looked? No, instead we complain about Spamming in all chat (which btw, you can either A. ignore the person,or B. Turn allchat off. ) and Leavers in Pvp matches. Should someones account get banned just because they want to say something in allchat, not harming anyone? NO. Should someones account get banned just because they REALLY DO NOT feel like teaming up with this person? NO. Of course not. Yea, you'll be pissed off, but BANNING someone (for any amount of time) is B.S.

MrFuzzles · Aug 15, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by Softly Spoken Lies

So Basically, what I get from this is:
A. I am FORCED to play certain parts of the game. Dammit all to hell if I don't want to stay in a group with an idiot.
B. If my roommate is dying on the floor, damn him, I can't leave this RA match because my account might be penalized.

Why don't we complain about something else? Like, for instance...New guild cape emblems, more templates for hair\face. And wouldn't it be great if we had a day where you could change the way your char looked? No, instead we complain about Spamming in all chat (which btw, you can either A. ignore the person,or B. Turn allchat off. ) and Leavers in Pvp matches. Should someones account get banned just because they want to say something in allchat, not harming anyone? NO. Should someones account get banned just because they REALLY DO NOT feel like teaming up with this person? NO. Of course not. Yea, you'll be pissed off, but BANNING someone (for any amount of time) is B.S.

Nobody has said ANYTHING about banning accounts. If your roomate is lying there on the floor dying, do you really feel your gw account is more important?

The suggested changes mostly involve penalizing leavers by locking them out of being able to instantly rejoin again. I'm sure that by the time you've taken your roomate to the hospital and come back home, you will be able to enter the arena again.

semantic · Aug 15, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

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Originally Posted by Softly Spoken Lies

So Basically, what I get from this is:
A. I am FORCED to play certain parts of the game. Dammit all to hell if I don't want to stay in a group with an idiot.
B. If my roommate is dying on the floor, damn him, I can't leave this RA match because my account might be penalized.

Why don't we complain about something else? Like, for instance...New guild cape emblems, more templates for hair\face. And wouldn't it be great if we had a day where you could change the way your char looked? No, instead we complain about Spamming in all chat (which btw, you can either A. ignore the person,or B. Turn allchat off. ) and Leavers in Pvp matches. Should someones account get banned just because they want to say something in allchat, not harming anyone? NO. Should someones account get banned just because they REALLY DO NOT feel like teaming up with this person? NO. Of course not. Yea, you'll be pissed off, but BANNING someone (for any amount of time) is B.S.

Maximum points for over-reaction. If you had somehow worked George Bush or the plight of dolphins into your post, you'd be looking at serious BO-BO-BONUS points.

It looks like it's just going to be a brief time-out from arenas for repeat leavers.

Conjur me · Aug 15, 2007, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Im glad they are going to punish leechers, thats great news for aspenwood. but this leaver thing needs somemore looking at, because its true, i dont want to be on a team when someone enter with a a/w and thinks its funny to wear festival hats and use frenzy heal sig.

Rich_Izy · Aug 15, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26

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Originally Posted by Softly Spoken Lies

So Basically, what I get from this is:
A. I am FORCED to play certain parts of the game. Dammit all to hell if I don't want to stay in a group with an idiot.
B. If my roommate is dying on the floor, damn him, I can't leave this RA match because my account might be penalized.

Why don't we complain about something else? Like, for instance...New guild cape emblems, more templates for hair\face. And wouldn't it be great if we had a day where you could change the way your char looked? No, instead we complain about Spamming in all chat (which btw, you can either A. ignore the person,or B. Turn allchat off. ) and Leavers in Pvp matches. Should someones account get banned just because they want to say something in allchat, not harming anyone? NO. Should someones account get banned just because they REALLY DO NOT feel like teaming up with this person? NO. Of course not. Yea, you'll be pissed off, but BANNING someone (for any amount of time) is B.S.

I dislike how you are assuming A-Net will solve problems in a black & white style. That A-Net will ban for such petty violation is an overestimation of what the new PVP system will offer.

Oh, and we'll all have to deal with the lack of common sense (turning off All-Chat) since it isn't as ubiquitous as it was ever before.

Softly Spoken Lies · Aug 15, 2007, 05:06 AM // 05:06

Oh, Okay, My Bad. But, I think some of you missed the point. The Point is, everyone is complaing about stuff that doesn't need to be fixed (ie, spam filter) When they could be complaining about the content of the game. (IE, more emblems, etc.) Seems to me, the people of guild wars want the game stricter.

Guild Wars design teams are great and have much to offer. Why not suggest something you've been wanting? They made this out of their imagination, just think of what they can come up with.

=HT=Ingram · Aug 15, 2007, 05:21 AM // 05:21

Softly Spoken Lies As I understand it the penalty is really reasonable. something along the lines of the following.

Right now in RA you can hit enter and go into the arena match in a matter of a min or two. But if you have a penalty flag you get some time added to that wait interval. the more you do it the more the time increases as a penalty.
The only way to clear that penalty is to Play the match normally. What does this do?

1: People rage leaving repeatingly will have to wait a LONG time to start a match after say the 3rd time it happens in a row... Or something like that...

2: People do that will not want to wait around that long JUST to leave again and add more time to their wait interval.

3: Either the leavers will STOP, or they will move on to doing something else.

Now this does not mean that if you got an emergency and have to leave, or your parents comes and pulls the plug on you one time and that will end up a coded temp ban in the game; Whatever the reason. not at all. it may mean next time you play you may have to wait 5 mins for a round till play enough to recover your time interval debt back to normal. Thats more along the lines I think they are going with this.

This was the original proposal for this problem from several months ago. I think that is what they are working on now for implementation. Somehow I doubt they will do a Coded Ban for these actions as there is too many variables to consider for undoing it, and logistically it would be a hardship on the support staff to manage just that for the first couple months of it being on.

Consider Idle monitoring... The system detects a full rounds with no movement on a idle bot... The system auto kicks the player and flags a time penalty. People doing this nonstop, all the sudden will end up with wait times like up to or around an hour just to get into 1 match... Geee that will stop this problem pretty quick if you ask me...

Patrick Smit · Aug 15, 2007, 05:38 AM // 05:38

@=HT=Ingram I have seen better solutions against leeching in which a player needed to participate to earn his share of faction. In that case killing/damaging opponents, being in the vicinity of a shrine while capping it would result in a share to faction, inactive leechers at the base would never get any faction again. Therefore leeching (old style) would be useless, now they need use bots, which is a bannable offense ^^.

LumpOfCole · Aug 15, 2007, 05:42 AM // 05:42

Dealing with crappy players, at least you have a chance. That chance turns into no chance with leavers.

myword · Aug 15, 2007, 06:29 AM // 06:29

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Originally Posted by prism2525

A friend of mine was doing GvG one day and was left alone against 5. You know what? He trahsed THEM.

my grandma did that before too, they should like form a 2 man guild, totally unbeatable